Walt Disney World has rolled out the brand new Lightning Lane Multi-Move, killing off the Genie+ service. This publish solutions a whole lot of often requested reader questions concerning the new pre-arrival experience reservation system based mostly on our firsthand experiences in utilizing the brand new app characteristic just about continuous since 7 am.
There are a whole lot of questions on the entire Lightning Lane Multi Move system, and we’ve already answered lots of them in our Information to Lightning Lane Multi Move & Single Move at Walt Disney World. This entire system is complicated and convoluted, particularly for individuals who by no means used FastPass+. This publish is greatest considered as a complement to that information and FAQ.
Actually, that’s the way it began. I used to be updating that FAQ based mostly on questions we’ve acquired at the moment once I realized I had already written 2,000 phrases and was including them to a 5,000 phrase publish. That didn’t look like one of the best strategy, particularly for readers who already combed by that information. It appeared like a waste of time (for you) and that this could be the higher choice for readability, avoiding confusion, and so on. So right here that is as a separate standalone publish with questions and solutions that’ll be rolled into that. When you’ve got extra questions that this doesn’t reply, please publish them within the feedback!
Is refreshing and rebooking experience reservations attainable with Lightning Lane Multi-Move prefer it was with FastPass+ or Genie+?
Sure, and it’s straightforward because of the modify button. As earlier than, you may play the ‘refresh recreation’ and get higher or extra handy return instances, and likewise seek for availability at different points of interest with out dropping your present Lightning lane experience reservation.
You would not have to cancel and rebook. Between the modify button and the 5-minute cart, you may bounce between the “Modify Plan” button and the “Shut” button to refresh and examine for brand spanking new instances fairly simply with out dropping your present choice–or committing to an inferior one.
Is extra availability added to Lightning Lane Multi-Move all through the day?
Sure. That is no shock in anyway, as each FastPass+ and Genie+ had experience reservation refills, drops, or no matter you need to name them that occurred at constant instances. (See Experience Reservation Refill Guidelines at Walt Disney World.)
It’s nonetheless early, so it’s inconceivable to know the cadence of those underneath Lightning Lane Multi-Move at this level, however I’ve already seen experience reservation refills for a number of points of interest underneath LLMP. And I do know they have been refills and never cancellations, as a ton of instances popped up–that they had the entire hallmarks of a refill.
With the modify button, looking for experience reservation refills is simple. Mixed, the 2 methods might be leveraged to attain a number of extra Lightning Lane picks per day. Simply be warned: it turns into addictive–identical to a online game. Additionally like a recreation, it will possibly imply dropping a ton of ‘actual world’ time as your face is glued to a display screen.
Which Lightning Lane picks are the “greatest” ones from every tier?
We rank one of the best Lightning Lane Multi-Move picks for every park based mostly upon time saved and the way rapidly return instances refill and run out. That is extremely useful for selecting the order to e book your experience reservations:
One phrase of warning: these are very, ahem, “optimistic” about what number of Lightning Lanes you’ll be capable to e book per day versus the on-the-ground actuality we’re seeing on day certainly one of Lightning Lane Multi-Move. But it surely’s nonetheless very early and quite a bit might–and can–change.
Does Park Hopping price further?
With Lightning Lane Multi Move, there is no such thing as a further cost for Park Hopping, and you don’t want to pay for the Lightning Lane Multi-Move a second time. There’s a whole lot of confusion about this because of inaccurate reporting and assumptions based mostly on Disney’s historical past of nickel and diming, however they’re inaccurate.
Nevertheless, it’s essential to use your first Lightning Lane earlier than making subsequent picks in several parks. The explanation for that is that upfront pricing does differ. That means with out this ‘faucet in’ requirement for the primary Lightning Lane, I might buy Lightning Lane Multi Move for Animal Kingdom at $16, make my picks there at 7:00 am, after which modify all of them to Magic Kingdom at 7:01 am. It might be a loophole to avoid wasting $9 per individual, with out a lot price since availability remains to be fairly good at 7 am.
However you may’t do this. When you attempt to modify Lightning Lane Multi Move picks from one park to a different earlier than utilizing any of them, you’ll have to pay the distinction. Thus closing that loophole. Nevertheless, should you use your Lightning Lane first (let’s say for Na’vi River Journey at 8:30 am), then you can begin making Magic Kingdom Lightning Lanes at that time with out paying something further. Availability received’t be pretty much as good and also you in all probability received’t get Tiana’s Bayou Journey, however that’s the tradeoff!
Ought to I e book the default return instances that Lightning Lane Multi-Move spits again after deciding on my rides?
Oddly and surprisingly: sure. Sure, it is best to more often than not.
The Lightning Lane Multi-Move system is “sensible” and can e book the primary accessible return time for every attraction, with a adequate buffer between them so that you just’re not double-booked. That is the ‘greatest apply’ since you sometimes must be making as early of arrival instances as attainable (for not less than one attraction) with a view to “unlock” that 4th experience quicker.
Actually, it is best to take into account altering your Group B picks with a view to prioritize for a mix of return time and experience precedence. Don’t e book Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean, for instance, if each have return instances within the afternoon. Go for the following highest precedence with an early return to unlock that 4th decide.
What’s one of the best order of parks for making advance Lightning Lane Multi-Move reservations?
From what we’re seeing by way of availability (or lack thereof), it is best to e book parks within the following precedence:
- Magic Kingdom (Tiana’s Bayou Journey)
- Disney’s Hollywood Studios (Slinky Canine Sprint)
- EPCOT (Remy’s Ratatouille Journey)
- Animal Kingdom (Na’vi River Journey, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Kali River Rapids or Expedition Everest)
For one of the best attraction and return time choices, you’ll need to backload your bookings with Magic Kingdom furthest out, then DHS, EPCOT, and Animal Kingdom. This issues much less if in case you have an extended journey and extra for a shorter one.
For instance, if I have been visiting the parks August 12-15, I’d e book within the following order:
- Magic Kingdom: August 15
- DHS: August 14
- EPCOT: August 13
- DAK: August 12
This may in all probability change as soon as Tiana’s Bayou Journey turns into extra dependable. Its capability will enhance and thus so too will its Lightning Lane availability. I’d hope that this can happen within the subsequent month or so, however failing that, TBA’s recognition ought to drop barely as soon as winter arrives.
In the long run, I’ve a tough time seeing Slinky Canine Sprint dethroned from its #1 spot. However, Magic Kingdom goes to have rotating refurbishments/reimaginings from Group A by 2025 and DHS does have a powerful lineup in prime tier. Not solely that, however Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean have been the fastest-booking Group B choices of something from any park. (Considerably surprisingly.)
Are any points of interest reserving up past the 3-day window?
Sure. I solely have entry by July 31, however listed below are points of interest with no Lightning Lane availability throughout the on-site reserving window:
- Tiana’s Bayou Journey (no time slots or dates accessible)
- Haunted Mansion (no morning time slots)
- Pirates of the Caribbean (no morning time slots)
- Jungle Cruise (restricted morning time slots)
- Slinky Canine Sprint (some dates unavailable; restricted time slots on accessible dates)
- Remy’s Ratatouille Journey (restricted morning time slots)
- Frozen Ever After (restricted morning time slots)
- Tower of Terror (restricted morning time slots)
- Toy Story Mania (restricted morning time slots)
Frankly, I wouldn’t put a lot inventory in any of this exterior of Tiana’s Bayou Journey, Slinky Canine Sprint, and Remy’s Ratatouille Journey. These will stay tough to e book at or contained in the 3-day window. The whole lot else might be going to alter as stock is adjusted.
Is it attainable to see accessible points of interest and return instances earlier than shopping for?
Sure. Actually, that is the solely method to do it.
You choose your first three points of interest and return instances with Lightning Lane Multi Move earlier than you pay–that’s the final step of the method. When you make your picks, you’ll have a set period of time throughout which your ‘cart’ is reserved with a view to full the transaction.
Why is availability so restricted?
Nearly each Lightning Lane Multi-Move and Single Move stuffed up quicker at the moment than yesterday regardless of comparable crowds. That second half is especially related as a result of nothing modified about Single Move apart from the title. With regard to Multi-Move, just about the one rides that didn’t refill hours quicker than regular are people who usually e book rapidly.
Magic Kingdom was particularly dangerous, with Group B points of interest that don’t usually run out of availability till the night (e.g. Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, Buzz Lightyear’s Area Ranger Spin, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, and Tomorrowland Speedway–actually, the speedway?!) being passed by early afternoon.
A part of it’s in all probability that there are a whole lot of vloggers, bloggers, influencers, and Floridians who must be “first” all within the parks and “clogging up” the Lightning Lanes. Nevertheless, that’s solely a minor contributing issue. My persons are loud and obnoxious, making us appear greater in quantity than we’re genuinely.
The extra seemingly clarification is that it’s the primary day of a brand new product providing. Walt Disney World has finished quite a bit to put the groundwork for improved Lightning Lane availability, however the actuality stays that they’re going from 1 experience reservation previous to arrival to three–tripling demand proper out of the gate.
Given this, it’s seemingly that Walt Disney World is throttling Lightning Lane availability as a result of it’s model new and so they themselves aren’t certain of what to anticipate. I’d think about they’ll slowly open the valve, so to talk, after just a few days and deeper into August. We should always begin seeing extra upfront availability and experience reservation refills because the months go on. In fact, crowds are additionally going to be worse for a lot of October by December, so there’s that, too.
The underside line is that I’d warning anybody towards extrapolating developments based mostly on the primary day or week. As we noticed firsthand with Genie, issues modified often and repeatedly within the first 18 months after launch. Lightning Lane Multi-Move already seems extra secure (it’s definitely not as half-baked), however it’ll nonetheless evolve over time.
How a lot time are your decisions locked in?
You’ve got 5 minutes from the time you place Lightning Lanes in your “cart” to finish checkout.
This will imply there’s nonetheless a shifting of instances proper on the 7:00:00 am mad sprint, however when you make the picks, they’re locked into place. (Error messages will happen earlier than that, if in any respect.) It is a large enchancment from Genie+ when instances have been ‘blind’ for the primary half-hour because of the large shifting attainable.
This additionally means you in all probability need to hold taking part in the ‘refresh recreation’ till round 7:30 am when reserving your Lightning Lanes by way of Multi-Move, as carts will expire and different visitors will hold swapping round Lightning Lanes and “buying and selling up” instances as availability permits.
Do tiers apply same-day?
When you’re simply reserving ‘chilly’ or for the primary time, the Grouping A and B distinctions do apply together with your first same-day Lightning Lane Multi-Move picks.
When you’ve entered a park and tapped into your first Lightning Lane, tiers now not apply for subsequent picks.
What about tiers to modifications?
In our expertise, tiers don’t apply to modifications as long as you’ve already redeemed a Lightning Lane. That means that you may redeem a Lightning Lane for Pirates of the Caribbean at 9:05 am, after which modify pre-booked Lightning Lane from Haunted Mansion to Large Thunder Mountain Railroad whereas nonetheless additionally holding a Tiana’s Bayou Journey Lightning Lane.
The query I can not reply is whether or not you may faucet into the park after which modify all of those Lightning Lanes to Group A picks earlier than tapping into any of them.
Can Lightning Lane experience reservations overlap with each other?
Not fully. Within the screenshot above, you may see that now we have a Tiana’s Bayou Journey Lightning Lane for 11:45 am to 12:45 pm and Haunted Mansion from 12:35 to 1:35 pm–an overlap of 10 minutes.
In doing quite a lot of testing, we have been in a position to e book partially overlapping Lightning Lanes by as a lot as 25 minutes. In different circumstances, we couldn’t do greater than 20 minutes. It’s tough to inform whether or not this was because of availability or a rule setting the buffer.
By default, it looks like there isn’t overlapping. It additionally seems that should you modify to create an overlap, the system will try and shift your different present picks to scale back or eradicate the overlap. However you may nonetheless modify to create higher overlaps–not less than, in some eventualities, and at sure points of interest.
That is not like the Genie+ system, which was “dumb” and thus didn’t examine for conflicts with present reservations. It’s just like the FastPass+ system, which prevented overlap. (To one of the best of my recollection, no overlap in anyway was allowed.)
Can Lightning Lane experience reservations overlap with Advance Eating Reservations?
Once more, not fully. That means that if in case you have an Advance Eating Reservation (ADR) at Cinderella’s Royal Desk beginning at 2:05 pm, you can’t have a Lightning Lane additionally beginning at 2:05 pm. That is additionally not like Genie+.
Weirdly, it does appear you could have a Lightning Lane beginning at 1:55 pm even if in case you have an ADR at 2:05 pm. It’s unclear how a lot buffer is important or if it is a glitch and can change–however it’s what we’re seeing to this point.
Had been Lightning Lanes faraway from meet & greets and leisure?
Sure. Walt Disney World made clear that this was occurring upfront, however then oddly used the previous points of interest record from Genie+ in My Disney Expertise, giving some hope that possibly characters have been again.
As to the “why” of this and whether or not it might change…we’ll have an extended publish within the coming days. However for now till in all probability not less than early 2025, character meet & greets now not provide Lightning Lanes, nor do parades and different leisure.
What’s the reserving window for Annual Passholders who’re staying on-site?
Relating to the reserving home windows, staying on-site all the time takes priority. That means that it doesn’t matter what your ticket kind is if in case you have an on-site resort reservation that entitles you to the 7-day reserving window takes precedence. Or not less than, it ought to.
There’s all the time the potential of points in terms of Disney IT and programs figuring out which “standing” to prioritize, however the official coverage is that staying on-site supersedes ticket kind. Because of this all visitors with their MDX profiles linked to an on-site resort reservation ought to be capable to buy and make Lightning Lane reservations pursuant to the 7-day on-site benefit reserving window, for his or her total keep (as much as 14 days).
What about cut up stays?
Formally, resort cut up stays which can be steady (back-to-back bookings with no gaps between lodges) might buy and e book Lightning Lane Multi Move and Single Move picks for the complete size of their go to as much as a most of 14 days. This could work, in principle, no matter what number of reservations you could have. I might do single evening stays for 2 weeks, and it ought to nonetheless work. (I wouldn’t need to, however I ought to have the option to take action.)
In apply, we’re listening to that is extra hit and miss and may require an override from Disney IT. That’s not fully shocking, as FastPass+ had comparable points sometimes. We don’t have any firsthand expertise with this and LLMP but, however it’s one thing to pay attention to should you’re doing a cut up keep.
Does advance reserving of Lightning Lane Multi-Move work for worldwide visitors?
I’ve acquired 3 firsthand studies of visitors in Canada having success reserving/shopping for Lightning Lane Multi-Move and Single Move. I’ve seen a number of extra oblique studies of this working. I’ve additionally acquired one report from a Canadian visitor who couldn’t full the method, and browse one other. My recommendation could be updating to model 8.01 of the My Disney Expertise app, however past that, I can’t provide any troubleshooting recommendation since I’m based mostly within the U.S. Sorry!
I’ve not heard any studies from the UK, Europe, or past–however am very curious as as to whether a mixture of VPNs, GPS spoofers, and different expertise to side-step the rule. So please share your experiences should you’re a world visitor who has had success or failures in utilizing Lightning Lane Multi-Move!
Is Lightning Lane Multi Move worse than Genie+?
Say the road, Bart: queueing is a zero-sum recreation that creates winners and losers in equal elements.
That this implies is that attraction capability is fastened and finite. There isn’t a roughly capability than there was yesterday when Genie+ existed than there may be at the moment underneath Lightning Lane Multi Move. Furthermore, if somebody receives a bonus, meaning another person is deprived. There isn’t a magical system the place everybody will get to attend in shorter strains.
Line-skipping programs don’t change capability. No strategy to strains adjustments the underlying capability. It doesn’t matter if it’s all standby, paper FastPass, FastPass+ vs. Genie vs. Lightning Lane Multi-Move. The one significant method to really alter the equation is by really growing capability. One of the simplest ways that’s finished, in the long run, is constructing extra points of interest.
Different methods to extend capability within the brief or medium time period are including leisure, extending working hours, or simply giving visitors different issues to try this both pull them away from rides or dilute the distribution of visitors all through the day. The whole lot else is a matter of rearranging the deck chairs, and having completely different visitors or demographics come out forward or behind.
From what I’ve heard over the course of the final yr or so, Walt Disney World’s goal with its suite of queueing adjustments is healthier stability. Insurance policies and programs that really feel fairer to the vast majority of visitors and don’t benefit or drawback anybody an excessive amount of. From what we’ve heard, they’ve been making an attempt to string the needle with all of those adjustments. It’s an unenviable job and no-win proposition, however that’s the intent.
In different phrases, that is actually a matter of asking higher or worse for whom? It’s nonetheless very early, however present indicators level to considerably much less Lightning Lane availability underneath the Multi Move and Single Move programs. Whether or not that was intentional or not stays to be seen. Let’s assume it was, wherein case this new paradigm might be worse for its patrons than the Genie+ service. However guess what? Queueing is finally a zero-sum recreation that creates winners and losers in equal elements. Because of this the large winner of Lightning Lane Multi Move and Single Move would…visitors not paying something further to make use of the standby line!
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